Thread: Dynojet CMD results

Wow, very nice. I guess it will be the CMD for me then.

We've got ours on order now! Nice gains! She just needs an intake now

Originally Posted by CMcCane

We've got ours on order now! Nice gains! She just needs an intake now

Hi CM. How does the Dynojet CMD compare with the RRM Next Stage Power Pro 2.0 offering?

IMHO they are completely different. RRM is a canned tune that manipulates TIP/MAP values to trick the ECU into altering fuel, timing, and boost. With NSPP you won't be able to up boost past their settings, change injectors, change boost solenoids, adjust for new parts, adjust for elevation, etc... The current NSPP won't really add much if any power down low either since Rock said they left all tuning below 3500 stock. If you notice the gains I had below 3500 are pretty substantial. CMD allows you, or your tuner, direct control over boost and fuel with timing coming in the next couple/few months.

I'm not trying to put NSPP down as it appears to provide good gains, but it's not comparable to CMD or PA in it's current form. CMD and PA are tuning devices not a tuned device.

If you don't want gobs of torque down low, ability to customize for new parts, and almost unlimited tuning options, stick with RRM. If you want gobs of torque and the option to tune for other parts or even just to squeeze the most out of your car then CMD or PA are the way to go.

I also think that CMD might be able to achieve the same gains as NSPP since it can control the MAP/TIP sensors directly. I've been contemplating picking up an NSPP just to see what they're altering using CMDs logging abilities...

how are you logging your afr's? i'm assuming with a wideband correct? does anyone have some links for the CDM and RRM tuning options ? my buddy wants me to tune his car so i'm doing some research on the software.

Originally Posted by Criptballer

how are you logging your afr's? i'm assuming with a wideband correct? does anyone have some links for the CDM and RRM tuning options ? my buddy wants me to tune his car so i'm doing some research on the software.

if u plan to tune the car no sense in looking at the rrm box because you can't tune it, so that leaves u with the cmd.

Originally Posted by Crooked H

IMHO they are completely different. RRM is a canned tune that manipulates TIP/MAP values to trick the ECU into altering fuel, timing, and boost.

you also said this on my other post

Originally Posted by Crooked H

It's still considered a piggy back but it does have direct control over injectors and boost solenoid so it's not skewing data being read by the ECU to make it's changes.

after doing a little research for 5 mins i found this.

The CMD plugs directly into your OEM wire harness and intercepts signals between various sensors and the ECU. In most cases, the MAF (Mass Airflow), MAP (Manifold Pressure), TP (Throttle Position), Crank, Cam, and each fuel injector are captured and processed by the CMD to enhance each combustion event. Not only can you remap your injector pulse-width +/- 100% based on the various sensor inputs (with direct injector control), but you can also clamp (limit the output to the ECU) and remap (skew the output for larger sensors) the sensor output to suit your needs.

from this website, well i was going to post a link to the website but apparently i can't because i don't have 15 posts.

so technically its does intercept the signals hence it's a piggy back. but it seems like you do have very limited control over a few tables. interesting though.

It intercepts the signals the ECU is sending to the injectors/boost solenoid and alters to achieve changes not from the MAP/TIP sensors to the ECU like most other piggy backs. Yes it is a piggy back, don't think I mentioned differently. The only value it skews into the ECU is the map/tip, which it only limits to whatever value you set to keep from getting overboost codes...

It's not making the ECU think it's not producing enough boost, it doesn't make the ECU alter timing by thinking it's getting colder air, etc... It doesn't trick the ECU into making changes like a Fields, AFC, etc.

Originally Posted by Crooked H

It intercepts the signals the ECU is sending to the injectors/boost solenoid and alters to achieve changes not from the MAP/TIP sensors to the ECU like most other piggy backs. Yes it is a piggy back, don't think I mentioned differently. The only value it skews into the ECU is the map/tip, which it only limits to whatever value you set to keep from getting overboost codes...

It's not making the ECU think it's not producing enough boost, it doesn't make the ECU alter timing by thinking it's getting colder air, etc... It doesn't trick the ECU into making changes like a Fields, AFC, etc.

what you're saying doesn't make sense. how can you say that it ONLY skews the map/tip value when the description clearly states, The CMD plugs directly into your OEM wire harness and intercepts signals between various sensors and the ECU. In most cases, the MAF (Mass Airflow), MAP (Manifold Pressure), TP (Throttle Position), Crank, Cam, and each fuel injector are captured and processed by the CMD to enhance each combustion event.

anyways, that's just taking it from the text. Does your car have Map and MAF? like the evo x does? sorry i'm a little more familiar with the evo x since thats what i have, maybe thats where the confusion is coming from.